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Staying at BU a ‘stigma,’ Academy students say

By Chelsea Feinstein

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Published: Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Updated: Thursday, October 22, 2009

The Boston University Academy program may be rigorous, but most students choose to attend more highly-ranked schools for college, viewing BU as a safety school, some BUA students said.

“Since we’ve already been on campus for four years, there is a definite stigma attached to going to BU,” College of Arts and Sciences freshman Jacob Magid, who graduated from BUA last year, said. “‘You couldn’t get into a better school? You’ll be seeing the same faces and same places.’” 

BUA, founded in 1993 and located on BU campus, provides about 150 students with the opportunity to engage in a rigorous program featuring BU courses at both the graduate and undergraduate level, according to BUA administrators.

Current BUA senior Will Seltzer said students are justified in not wanting to matriculate at BU.

“I think it’s understandable once you look at the reasons for why the stigma exists,” Seltzer said. “The experience leads some to think that they wouldn’t be challenged at BU. They, after all, are a high school student taking a college class, and in some cases they are outperforming the college students.

He said some of the bias towards other schools may be because of the up-close view students have of BU compared to the others.

“In a sense, the stigma exists because BUA students get to see all of the flaws at BU while their exposure to other institutions consists of a guided tour,” he said.

But Seltzer, who said he is applying to eight universities, said he still is seriously considering BU because of its high quality programs. 

Other BUA graduates said they are content with their BU experiences.

“My classes at BUA were the hardest that I’ve ever had, even as a senior at BU,” College of Communication senior and BUA alumna Kelly Sullivan said. “I was definitely working harder than my friends at public schools, and working at a much quicker pace.”

Provided that they maintain a 3.0 GPA, BUA students are guaranteed acceptance into nearly all of BU’s undergraduate programs, BUA Head of School James Berkman said.

But most students choose not to utilize this guaranteed acceptance. In a typical graduating class of 35 to 40 students, usually only about five go on to attend BU, with many ending up at Ivy League and other renowned institutions, Berkman said, such as Brown University.

By the time they enter junior year, BUA students take about 40 percent of their classes at BU, and seniors are required to take only university courses. Seniors are also required to complete an 8,000 word senior thesis on a topic of their choice, ranging from the humanities to the sciences.

“So often we teach students how to jump through hoops, but we forget to teach them how to choose what hoops they want to jump through,” Berkman said. “One of BUA’s strongest points is that it gives students practice choosing what they want to learn about and how to make those decisions for themselves.”  

However, the school’s benefits do not come without a price. Tuition for the 2009-10 school year was $30,123, with about 32 percent of students receiving some form of financial assistance, the average grant being $17,633.

Many students at BUA said the experience more than adequately prepares them for college, no matter if they remain at BU or go elsewhere. 

“My experience at BUA was great, academically and socially,” College of Arts and Sciences junior and BUA alumnus Joe Hathaway said. “It was a fun, nurturing, and yet highly competitive environment to grow up in. While it wasn’t the typical high school experience, I would do it all over again in a second. I feel like it made me a strong learner, and a stronger person.” 

Comments

2 comments
will seltzer
Wed Oct 21 2009 16:25
I don't know if the reporter intentionally misrepresented me or whether I was just misinterpreted, but the end result is that the article leads one to believe certain things. At no point did I say or imply that BUA students were "justified" in their stigma. What I did say was that the stigma was "understandable", i.e. we can understand why there is a stigma. I've posted the entire paragraph that the quotations were lifted from below.
Chelsea Feinstein:
one last question, sorry. do you feel that there is a stigma at BUA associated with attending BU and how do you respond to this?
Will Seltzer:

It's no problem.
There's a stigma. I think it's an understandable one once you look at the reasons for why the stigma exists. For one thing, BUA students start taking the same classes as BU students their junior year, if not earlier, and in doing so the experience leads some to think that they wouldn't be challenged at BU. They, after all, are a high school student taking a college class, and in some cases they are outperforming the college students. The other part is that BUA students spend all four years of high school on the BU campus, and they live nearby, so the experience removes the other element of foreignness. In a sense, the stigma exists because BUA students get to see all of the flaws at BU while their exposure to other institutions consists of a guided tour.
I didn't have the second experience, and I certainly don't believe that I wouldn't be challenged at BU. I've had, and have, some great professors.
(I don't mean to say that all other students at BUA endorse the stigma. I know of two others who are seriously considering, if not planning, on going to BU.)

Riks -
Wed Oct 21 2009 13:12
'The experience leads some to think that they wouldn’t be challenged at BU. They, after all, are a high school student taking a college class, and in some cases they are outperforming the college students'

I believe that depends on what an individual chooses to study. I took a first-level Japanese class with a BUA student, and I grasped the language far better than he did.

Boston University was, admittedly, my safety school. I was rejected by Ivy League schools and forced to attend BU. While a majority of students who attend Boston University may not be so compelled to work hard, there is a handful of students who are just as intelligent and motivated as any you could find at more prestigious schools. I know someone who gave up Yale for BU. You can still be challenged here; no BUA student should make the mistake of thinking they are too good for this school.

'However, the school’s benefits do not come without a price. Tuition for the 2009-10 school year was $30,123, with about 32 percent of students receiving some form of financial assistance, the average grant being $17,633.'

The BUA students are privileged. My family never could have afforded tuition for any sort of private school. I understand the students want to move on to what they consider "bigger and better things," the Ivy League, but prestige is not everything, especially undergraduate prestige.

If most of the BUA students decide not to attend BU then I wish them luck wherever they choose to apply. I know what it feels like to desire challenge, but in my case I got stuck here. I even applied for transfer to Brown after my freshman year and was still rejected. However, I am making the best of my situation. Even though I think about it all the time, I am not about to lie down and die because Brown did not accept me.

Don't look down on BU students. You can stereotype all you want, but don't forget that there are some brilliant people here, people smarter than the smartest student BUA produces.

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